This is a nightmare--how do we make it end? 

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Chimera,

I watched the first Gaza Israeli you tube link in   Mr. Black's (Questministries) post above.   

 I found the video absolutely gruesome.

 I hope President Bush watches it too. Over and Over.  

We need this on every night on all the news channels.  It is this type of REALGAZA exposure that stopped the VietNam war. And it's videographer is the type of reporter who changes the world.

I have not met Mr. Black but I have heard from others that he is a US veteran.

I would suggest to you that it is Mr. Blacks training, experience, and strength that let him search the web for these horrific images – and to be composed enough after finding them to post them here on Realneo.   Personally, though I believe these images are very important to view, I would find it very difficult to go search for them and view them and post them.

I don’t believe that the links towards the end of the  Questministries post are advertising, but rather links to sites which Mr. Black finds very important – and he repeats them in the post hoping to convince others of his views – towards pacifism and civility among humans and animals alike.  And it costs to keep up a web site, so any advertising helps to keep the site alive.

Just click on his you tube  link again and make sure your sound is not muted – I think you will agree that advertising is not really an issue.

I can't even watch the second video...    

I figured such a video on YouTube would be a bit more popular than the stats that this one shows. I found this version -- also recent -- and read through the comments.

The video is from a 2005 political rally, when munitions being parading at a political rally at a refugee camp were exploded, with differing stories about the source.

A pickup truck carrying masked Islamic militants and homemade rockets blew up at a Hamas rally Friday, killing more than a dozen Palestinians, including children, and wounding dozens more, hospital doctors and witnesses said.

Witnesses told Israel's Yedioth Internet Web site the first explosion triggered several other blasts in nearby vehicles that were also carrying rockets and ammunition.

Estimates of the number of dead ranged from seven to 19.

Hamas blamed an Israeli helicopter, but the Israeli military denied involvement and the Palestinian Interior Ministry said the blast was set off by the mishandling of explosives.

Read more of the 2005 CBS story at Truck Explodes At Gaza Hamas Rally: Hamas Blames Israel; Palestinian Authority Blames Carelessness. Compare the first of the two photos they offer to the frame at 4:09 in the YouTube video.

Check out the link in the "more info" section of the video: their source has corrected itself...

I am not making a statement about this issue or subject matter; only hoping to make sure reliable information is being passed around.

Thank you Jeff S. for running this video through the numbers on you tube's view counter and for your other background factchecking. >Frankly, after watching it, I wasn't too compos mentis.  I am learning from you.   

Questministries may have been taken in just as I was without the number of viewers on the you tube counter being factored. If it was a planned demonstration of explosives, that would help explain why the video cam was right there…

However, whether this scene was in 2005 or today in January 2009, the deaths in the 2005 video are the result of a 4 decades long conflict that neither Europe or the US has the guts to effectively resolve. And the result of this lack of engagement are the continued deaths of civilians in Israel and Palestine, with a disproportionate number of deaths in Gaza.

We need to see this on TV. We need to make the pot boil to bring resolution. <

It's still a nightmare, whether staged or not---look at it as a display of human behavior--don't take sides. I don't have a side in this nightmare. I just want it to end. Also, to clarify (for Chimera) there is no measurable personal advertising/profit going on here at RealNEO.

QuestMinistries may have an agenda, but I don't. We all have a right to post and a right to ignore the posts (as you suggest).

We can also ignore the events in the Middle East, but to do so, ignores the reality that it affects our daily lives here in NEO. I live with a community of people who speak many languages. One of those languages is Arabic, so I am going to try and understand the situation.

quote from Rice  - what an insulting thing to say.

Israel sealed Gaza off some time ago - no one in, no one out including humanitarian aid. So going into this the Palestinians are starving, freezing (lacking fuel for heat) and without needed medical care. Israel is dispicable and she is our (the US) bitch -

U.S. Blocks UN Security Council Vote Calling For Immediate Cease-Fire In Gaza

Our media hasn't really been covering this prior to this latest flare-up but its been building up for months - since when is this ok (and did you hear about it in the US media?): Days After Calling Israeli Blockade of Gaza “A Crime Against Humanity,” UN Human Rights Investigator Richard Falk Detained, Expelled from Israel

Here's a video... same topic, a bit more timely and appropriate, almost as horrifying. Found via Elizabeth Kucinich on twitter.

Mads Gilbert, a Norwegian doctor in Gaza, tells Sky News that the number of civilians injured and killed in Gaza proves that Israel is deliberately attacking the population.

(YouTube is one site you'll find comments more hateful than cleveland.com...)

has anyone heard if Obama officially nominated Blair?

 http://www.democracynow.org/2009/1/6/dennis_blair_obamas_nominee_for_director 

http://www.democracynow.org/2009/1/7/obama_nominee_admiral_dennis_blair_...

http://www.democracynow.org/2009/1/9/did_obama_aide_admiral_dennis_blair

How can any DECENT Christian excuse or turn a blind eye to the genocide going on in Gaza!  God is no respecter of persons (Acts 10:34-35) and in EVERY nation he who lives righteously is acceptable to God. In their haste to whitewash all Israel's actions and condemn all Palestinians,  don't Christians even read their own Bibles?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbBMdDTC_34