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WOLSTEIN & CLEVELAND'S LONG WINTER OF DISCONTENTSubmitted by Roldo on Thu, 01/22/2009 - 10:17.
It’s an untidy and greedy free for all. Grab while you can. If you can. So why shouldn’t Scott Wolstein – whose grandiose Flats development has hit a frigid stall despite huge promised public subsidies – enter the messed up deal on the medical mart and convention center issue. Confusion may be the mark of bad planning, poor communications and lack of leadership and, quite frankly, an economy in a seemingly permanent dump. However, chaos seems to suit our so-called Leadership. I’m talking about the latest twist in the fiasco of the Cuyahoga County Commissioners and their attempt to foist a convention center on the taxpayers. It’s messy to watch. Wolstein, whose multi-million dollar development is as frozen our weather, hopes to grab a bunch more public dough by trying to thaw his Flats project with an infusion of another public project. The Wolsteins have always been a third-rate political power in Cleveland until recently. That means well behind Sam Miller and Al Ratner of Forest City and, of course, Dick Jacobs – who at this time has gotten all he can handle from our politicians. The Wolsteins believe now is their time. The Plain Dealer story this morning notes that Wolstein’s “pitch has piqued the interest of Merchandise Mart Properties Inc. (MMPI)” and that’s no wonder since MMPI appears unable to pull off this venture. MMPI’s deal is heavy with public subsidies but it still can’t seem to get the monster off the ground. MMPI seems at a dead end. The PD’s flurry of attention indicates that there’s plenty of hand-wringing over the inability to bring this project to fruition. Power shifts over the years. Going back to the 1970s Art Modell was a big cheese but he failed to keep his political benefactors happy. He got outmaneuvered by politician-generous Jacobs. Modell had to leave town and find new suckers in Baltimore. Now it looks as if Wolstein is trying to nudge Sam and Al out of the action – maybe out of town, too - by taking the med mart and convention center sugar pot away from them. Sam and Al, of course, want the deal on their land. They also want $40 million for the land some call a cliff. The problem, of course, is that neither development offers the public what it needs or deserves as they tries to take more $1 billion in taxpayer money over 20 years. If you want a rundown of what Cleveland and other governmental bodies have offered as subsidies to Wolstein’s Flats project check the end of this previous column on his Flats project: http://www.lakewoodbuzz.com/RoldoBartimole/RB%2005-03-06_Flats_Deal_Disg...
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Forum Architects a Disgrace
Let's make this very clear and personal. In the PD today was published "Vapor-Plans" - fraudulent, bull-shit images of something not plannned, or designed, or even thought through by anyone at all, other than a real estate developer... in this case the clearly psychotic Wolstein... yet "validated" by professional architects, with budgets, including rail and station relocation costs... and that all validated by only one source, being the Clevelent Plain Dealer, which published the vapor plans, which are by Forum Architects, which provided architecture services for the Plain Dealer.
Pure fraud to divert public funds to private interests, including friends of the Plain Dealer. Talk about inside dirty dealing...
Eventually some of these people must go to jail, and I'm working on the cases against each and every one of them here on REALNEO.
Wolsteins, people at Forum Architects, and people at the Cleveland Plain Dealer., understand Obama's words, and you certainly know which apply to your sorry asses.
Disrupt IT
summon the parasites
commented. here.
Public Money and Wolstein's Changing Plans
So, what is the process for completely changing development plans when you have millions of dollars of public money? Does Wolstein lose public funding if he does not create what he promised? Does the public get to weigh in on this at all?
NEORSD - Flats East Bank - medocn at the Mall
Already we have seen this news since Wolstein ran out of cash and put the project on hold:
Northeast Ohio sewer district may spend $5 million more on Flats East Bank project Plain Dealer January 16, 2009
"Sewer district trustees are considering paying nearly $5 million more than planned to complete the Flats East Bank sewer project, even though it's unclear if a planned neighborhood will ever be built.
The Northeast Ohio Regional Sewer District had earlier agreed to pay $8 million of the sewer overhaul to coincide with developer Scott Wolstein's $522 million residential, retail and office development on the east bank of the Flats.
Developers Wolstein and Fairmount Properties of Cleveland originally agreed to pay additional costs for the sewers, which amounted to about $5 million."
Wolstein already has loaned public money ("the city has loaned $6 million to the developers to buy property in the Flats") that he will have to repay whether he builds or not - that is unless one of our elected officals gets a stroke of benevolence and decides to erase the debt. Bankruptcy seems to work for erasing debt, too.
In the meantime, it looks like Wolstein may have to bark up another tree: Mall Location picked for Cleveland Convention Center
wake me up... PLEASE
????
i want a strip joint in my storefront... no... wait... a brothel... no wait... a liquor joint... no wait... a non-profit. anything... i don't care... just give me other people's property for $1...
that's it...
and then...
i want a non-profit in my place... give me some public money, too... i promise i'll do good. i'll help u. u need it. i'm here for you, just stand by me till i get it.
i promise u will get your say...
what? i get money?
oh... what about your u? huh? i can't hear u!
heay, u now have no say... i got the money. u shut up... go away...STOP asking ur E&&&ng questions... shut u i say or i ban ur biz... take ur home...
Silense!!
SILENSE!!!!! I SAY!!!!!!
...please...
wake me up from this group nightmare we're having...
Roldo's editorial from 2006 preserved Wayback Machine
Sweeney, Jackson, Council Disgraceful on Flats Deal
Perspective from Roldo Bartimole
05.03.06
Last week I did something I have not done for than two years and hope not to have to do it again.
Slippery Steve Strnisha had a quick-tongued non-answer: “It’s important for single management and ownership” of the property.Government now serves private interests more than public interests, as this double-dealing deal so well conveys.
Cimperman gave Wolstein our streets
Cimperman and his planning commission members and historic review people and other councilpeople and our mayor and John Carney of his port authority and all their hacks and wonks and the editors of the Plain Dealer and other media people in this region all together allowed the Wolstein Family to blight and bankrupt an entire district of Cleveland - the Flats - and then gave Wolstein our most valuable land, and our streets and public access, and demolished for him some of our most historic property, and gave him praise and money for it, and all for a stupid vapor-plan of $500/square foot condos attached to an exclusive boutique hotel and top-shelf retail and commercial, not needed (and in fact repugnant) during the real estate bubble and undesirable forever hereafter, with the only supposed tennant now ready to sign a lease being a law firm formed from the ashes of a law frim that screwed a bunch of office developers by ditching on leases around the country, when they went bankrupt.
We as a community should ask for the resignations of all people responsible for these stupid decisions resulting in these stupid outcomes.
We certainly know who they all are!
Disrupt IT
Joe Chimperman
This public serpant need to be sent a pack'n. He has all the sincerity and ethics of a used car salesman with a law degree.
No law degree
Cimperman does not have a law degree...he has an undergraduate degree from John Carroll. I can't say that I have respect left for any Cleveland council reps. Maybe, Martin Keane...Maybe Matt Zone.
But, Cimperman, Cummins, Santiago and Kelley are all complete sell-outs.
No, he doesn't have a law
No, he doesn't have a law degree or sell used cars (as far as I know) LOL.
I don't think anybody'd buy
I don't think anybody'd buy any cars from him anyway.
What he needs to do is get
What he needs to do is get over to Ward 13 in the Tremont area and clean up his CDC - earn his money and find out what he's paying out all those federal dollars for and I want to know what happened to the Walmat donations made to ease the mortgage burdens of low income people in Tremont?